Episode 53: Inner Peace through Self Knowing with Christine Agha
Synopsis
The conversation with today's guest Christine is such a treat to share with you. Christine is a mindset coach who is also an Energy Healer and Medium, dedicated to supporting others to be the best version of themselves. She has a very cheerful demeanor which really stands out to me in a world full of people taking themselves very seriously...
The highlights of this conversation to me are really about connecting on the best response to heavy issues, and how to unburden ourselves. She also shares a lot of wisdom about the meaning and significance she derives from her connection to higher power.
This episode could also be very helpful for anyone raising children into young adults today, and especially for the women in my community! Christine was such a joy to communicate with and I'm so very happy to share her with you on this Monday. I hope you'll join us.
Connect with Christine on IG: https://www.instagram.com/christine_agha/
Check out her incredible masterclass, Awaken and Amplify Your Connection To Your Inner Guidance System:
https://christineagha.kartra.com/page/RegisterForTheMasterclassNow
Show Notes
Mandy: Christine is calling in from Australia. We're here on Zoom today. We were just chatting about how we met as I remember that I had the honor that she found me first, so to speak. Do you want to share?
Christine: I have been following Selena Soo who I watched this beautiful masterclass that she did around building relationships and I was on her Instagram stories and your podcast popped up because you had interviewed Selena on one of your podcast episodes. So when I watched a video on your page, I felt a connection instantly, I loved your vibe. So I watched this video where you met a homeless man. And it really touched my heart because my son at the time was doing an assignment about homelessness and what we could do as a community to contribute to that issue.
And I actually popped you up on my Screencast and we watched your video together because I wanted him to see a different view on homelessness. I was raised a Catholic and my son's going to a Catholic school, but in the process of my own spiritual journey, some new and interesting evolutions occurred and mediumship opened up for me where I was able to communicate with souls on the other side and that shook my idea of spirituality needing to be inside of a box and just being one way that you could look at it.
It really had me explore different ways of service in the world and also different ways of experiencing the divine…. Experiencing the divine in our lives and our own connection to spirit and feeling that inside of ourselves.
I feel that what they were prompting Antonin in his assignment was that it was very much to take on board this issue of homelessness and how could he contribute and I could sense that there was a lot of guilt there within him in that process…
Mandy: Oh my gosh, everything you're saying is so relatable right now, as well, like a lot of levels. I have a lot of questions and comments but to the point of his experiencing guilt, how old is he? We’re talking about Anthony?
Christine: He is 13 years old. He's still young. he's very open minded and our own experiences of things (spirit) in the house when he was young, too, have allowed him to see spirituality.
I always talk about, even though I'm going to my growth and sometimes I don't fully understand it when it's happening I like to talk to my kids about it because I think that it's important that they also challenge ideas that don't feel aligned for them including what they're being taught… as in religion, for example, because it's not important to believe things that you are not in alignment with and if you have questions about them. I want them to be willing to open a conversation with me so we can explore it together which is really different from how I was raised.
Mandy: Yeah absolutely, like I said mind blowing a little bit… Backing up to the video. What was it that prompted you? What was it about the video that spoke to you, and for him? And how did that go with you guys watching it together?
Christine: What really connected with me was, I felt when you were sharing your experience about bumping into the homeless man was that our contribution doesn't necessarily need to be a complete physical contribution to the exact cause.
There are so many issues in the world and if we were to consider how can we help, how can we contribute to every single issue? That can be really overwhelming because a lot of these things are very much outside of our own experience, outside of ourselves. But if we are open and aware of our current mental state, and our own issues in healing or in pain… that is enough of a contribution to society, to the world. to the planet because energetically, when you are looking at your own inside world, your own experiences and working through that and evolving and growing through your own experiences, that contribution is enough.
You don't need to feel the guilt of all of the issues that are happening outside of your own circumstance because that's where you hold on to that guilt.
Mandy: I'm so glad that you found that video specifically. I'll tell you a little backstory about it and then my own reflections of it and just how much I feel like you really did get me and what I was trying to transmit through that small live video.
First and foremost, you will have a hard time getting me on live (when I am not communicating with another person like it's happening right now).
I am not like a freeform speaker. My ideas, what's going on in my head, is often feeling complex to the point of being confusing. I work those ideas out through internal processing and then it can produce something useful, valuable, maybe even beautiful for others so that's my perception of my own way of contributing
That day it's just cool you saw that video because that day I was so compelled to what I had experienced was it made me get on live and I sat there for like 45 minutes on the curb in downtown Seattle trying to figure out how to do a Live IG… to figure out how to get my phone to sync, to charge the phone, to get a cell reception, like everything was working against me. I tried like 4 or 5 different times to record that darn video… and it never happened.
Eventually, I went home and finally did it outside of my house in that gazebo where you saw me. And I'm saying all of that in kind of a humorous way because I never get on the camera and that moment was meaningful for me, too, and it's meaningful for a couple of reasons.
You picked up on so many of them. One is that guilt like you know, as well, if not better than anyone. which is part of the reason that we're talking on this show. This episode is happening because of that guilt. Not only does it not help, but it actually takes us out of the game, which is just crazy to think about. And the guilt only happens anyway if you're feeling the sorrow for the experience that you're witnessing… and maybe interpreting that you can't help, so what are you hearing in that?
Christine: I'm hearing exactly what you're saying.
Mandy: It's already telling you that you care for what you do about it and while we're experiencing that guilt, it’s so not just a little debilitating.
Over time, as you multiply all these issues like the concern that you're seeing your son absorb like a sponge that just because he cares, because his heart is so big, he's taking up the guilt of all these different issues.
And I think that's such a useful picture for us to consider how we have done the same as adults, no less. The children are so precious, you know you can see it's needless for a child to do that. But then as adults, we’re like, “Well shoot.. I'm doing that every day.”
Christine: And that's why it's so important to have these conversations all the time and they’re never too young to have these kind of conversations. Children are never too young to have complex heart to heart open conversations which I felt guilt around like, “Do I talk to my kids about what I'm learning about life?” And that guilt was taking up so much space in my life that it actually stops me from living and experiencing the joy… because all of our energy, all of our emotions, they take up space so when we’re holding on to those negative emotions energetically and emotionally, it takes away the space where we can be in pure enjoy and experience more happiness.
Like you know, I love the name of your podcast, Calm, Confident and Deliriously Happy because that is the opposite of the wounds that I've lived my entire life.
That's what compelled me to reach out to you and say, “I would love to be on a podcast,” because it speaks to me and I can imagine it speaks to so many people in the world, as well.
Mandy: I appreciate that so much and I really love that I got to hear just moments before the first piece of that for the first time, literally. Everyone listening, I just was graced with this beautiful reflection, because even just looking at the microcosm of, “Do I post this or not?”... The ferocity that I wanted to hear from Christine of, “How did this impact you?”... So often we don't know the impact of the choices that we make and I just created something the other day about this on Instagram… I've been really pushing myself to communicate more freely and consistently through some channel… and you know these days, it just happens to be through a certain platform. There's been some consistency and some evolution there for me, which feels really positive and freeing… but I shared something specifically about this… That while you may be despairing in your own human experience, something that you did months before or even in that moment, just the thought of you to someone else could be like a warm blanket.
It's like sometimes when we're in a dark experience, we may not realize that in another room, someone else is thanking god for us.
Christine: Yes, I appreciate what you were saying about being an internal process of before you can deliver something, because I'm very much like that, too. I mean even to this podcast, I sat for hours and hours and thought, “What am I going to talk about?” And I put it all together and I come here, I'm like …I didn't even cover one of these points!
Mandy: I love that! I ask folks who I interview on the show (if you could call it that) the questions on a form. It's pretty simple: take their headshot, get their details, grab an email, try to provide some information prior to jumping on and recording so there's an experience that's given there… and one of the questions that I ask is, “What is the trait you most value in yourself?” And I love the answers that I get back. It always gives me, even guests that I've known for many years, I love to understand how that person views themselves because, ultimately, it informs me on how I can view them, as well. I'm just like “grab the popcorn,” let me watch the way that you see yourself.
I love to do that because I like to be seen the way that I see myself, too.
I don't know if anyone can relate but it's wonderful to be seen and understood in the way that you understand yourself.
So where I'm going with this is, Christine’s answer was the trait that she most values and loves and appreciates about herself is her honesty.
And my answer to that question has always been trust. So there's some definite alignment on that front, as well, almost uncanny.
I think this would be such a lovely time, if you want to share a little bit about the life events and the circumstances, and maybe some of the formative events that brought us here today and shaped who you are.
Christine: That's a beautiful question. For me, I love to talk about my own spiritual journey because I feel like where I am right now is based so much in spirituality and it's my priority in life - my connection with my soul, my connection with the divine, and how I can actually bring that beautiful “fifth dimensional energy” but I don't even talk about it like that… so let's not call it that.
Mandy: Well then let me ask you a question right out the gate, how do you relate to or how do you experience that? When you're talking about wanting to bring that into our world and share more of that experience that you've personally had with others, how do you experience it? What is that like? So that anyone who doesn't have an immediate understanding of what you're talking about can learn through language.
Christine: How I experience it is I'm going to share a bit of the story while I tell you about how I experience it.
So when I started NLP mindset coaching, when I became a life coach and I got all my qualifications and I started working with people on the thing that I loved most was the processes that you connected to that was outside of your physical senses - things like timeline therapy and matrix therapy.
It's almost like you call it - transcending. Tell me how you frame it because I really love that - it's not about fixing problems and finding solutions, it’s about transcending them.
You can have a physical symptom or an emotional symptom whether it's anxiety or whether it’s fear or whether it's anger, rage, we have so many different emotions and instead of making them wrong and trying to push them away you can actually have an experience with communicating with them.
There, the process is that I love the most and sometimes you connect to how the manifesting in your body is a physical symptom. Sometimes, empaths (highly sensitive people) that are more aware of what their physical experience in their body that is connected to those kind of emotions.
Using these NLP processes to befriend the emotions and meet them with love so that you can take out the learning and actually physically feel them dissolve from your body, as well as the energy just completely release…
Mandy: You’re basically alchemizing that energy. Your body is basically processing the experience away because you are creating harmony with the experience through your consciousness rather than allowing there to still be that resistance force between you and the experience because of your understanding of it, right? Fully integrating the experience of basically… the idea is just… (to further geek out on this) you have the capability, to bring this back to the neurolinguistic programming technique of timeline therapy, we have the ability to perceive the entire timeline whole, which means we're greater than the timeline so we can step outside of the time dimension of things and see the whole.
Because of that, you can actually encompass and integrate experiences into your own understanding creating greater harmony.
Christine: Yeah, that's exactly it. I love that!
Mandy: That got very technical to those listening - I'm embarrassing myself just the level of geeking out.
Christine: I love it! I could have come visit. Don’t feel like you're embarrassing yourself because I could geek out on this for days.
Mandy: So, my question is where did you first have this experience and why do you want to bring it to others?
Christine: The experience that came after that, I remember inside of my NLP training when I was using something similar to timeline therapy, but it's called matrix therapy. It’s just a little bit different. I was clearing guilt and we were practicing and my consciousness had never been as high as it went in this specific process and I met the spirit of my grandmother up there, which I've never had an experience like that before and it felt so surreal. Tears were flowing down my face but it was so warm.
It was the most secure and held I had ever felt in my life that I could remember.
And I wanted to bring that to people. That's what I want people to experience.
And at the time, I didn't realize that that was the opening of my mediumship. At the time, I had no idea because it was so many years back before it really opened up.
So I went from that to studying an energy healing modality called soul psychology in the journey of trust and faith. That is what allowed me to open up to spirit because it just happened this one day where I was in a client session and I could feel, I could see, I could hear my clients’ loved ones in the room and you would think that would be really scary and at the time if you had asked me two years before that and told me that this is gonna happen I would have been petrified and do everything to avoid it because it felt like it was outside of my belief system of what was possible - that's what you see in movies.
Mandy: What's striking about this is that it's not like you're going out seeking for this to happen in the first place. And it was challenging even to your own belief system along the way. Are you ever afraid that something you could do would disrupt this gift that you have?
Christine: I was. I was afraid and this is why honesty and integrity are of so high value to me because when it started happening, I wanted to know how I could do it in a way where I was only communicating with the light (which is happening anyway) and how I could do it in a way where I was honoring the gift. It's so important for me not to ever use these gifts from manipulation or any other source or shadow.
That's the most important thing. It's so important that I hold integrity around it so I would started going to development circles and talking to other mediums and understanding a little bit more, as well as just enjoying the experience to make sure that I was actually delivering what I was receiving and not confusing the messages with my own mind.
Mandy: Because there's a lot of information coming through and around all the time. I think your point is also like (this is even more layman's terms) - we can perceive a lot of things. We can we can misperceive with our five senses. Most people will definitely misperceive from time to time. Their own intuition, their gut has supposedly led them the wrong way. We've misinterpreted the inter signal. Then with these extrasensory type of perceptions, you're just extending that gift of perception one layer or two layers or three layers further into ether using this body/mind vehicle to pick up on and understand, hear, interpret signals, right? Alternately happening in consciousness or energy.
Christine: Exactly, and what's so important about clearing the fear and practice so the one thing I will never go without is my meditation every single morning. That is my practice, that is my priority because that is how I keep my communication clear.
Mandy: You can trust you’re kind of greasing the skids, you’re oiling the cogs, making sure that your vehicle is tuned and functioning properly.
I think it's also really important we're coming towards a point where we're probably gonna start to tie up loose ends in the conversation and what's striking to me after hearing all this is: One I just want to emphasize my own understanding of what you're sharing your gifts are for whatever it's worth to anybody listening is - I like in every way possible when I am able to normalize and make parallels with other things. This is basically just another thing that's on a spectrum. In that light, it seems so much more easy to understand and connect with even when it does breach past any current boundary that we might have installed for what can make sense for us.
Christine: Yes. We all have our intuition. We are spiritual beings, we're not just supposed to rely on our physical senses and each and everyone of us has a different way that we can use these gifts in our life. So when you're working with meditation you're connecting to your spirit, it doesn't necessarily mean it's going to open up mediumship. If you have the intention to. You can definitely develop it, but we’re all spiritual beings and our intuition is there to support us so that it can turn up the volume of our soul voice. That's why I created my 6 week course which is around awakening your intuition because I had story many clients who were so confused like you said about misinterpreting whether something's coming from the intuition or the fear-based mind and so clearing the fear around spirit and being open to your intuition so that you can create a clear communication channel is important for everything in life.
It's why meditation is the foundation of your own connection with your soul and with your spirit and living a soul-lead life which is what I'm so passionate about.
We have all these crazy goals and we think that we want things to be a certain way, but when you're connecting with your inner guidance system and you’re doing that each and every day… having that practice, then you almost get delivered what the next best thing is for you so that you're living at this level that is connected to your higher self.
You don't know what that is, yet, if you're not open to listening to yourself, you know.
Mandy: I love it and I just have this parting thought on my mind for you - we're not quite done, yet, - I want to highlight some of the things you have to share but all of the literal gifts that you have for listeners are also going to be included in the show notes and so something that was on my heart to share is that it's obvious that you have such an emphasis and a focus on delivering your gifts with integrity. I think if anybody is listening this far has been paying attention they will have observed the same. I am so glad that you have had the courage to share your gifts and your passion just shows through.
I'm excited for people for this conversation to be shared with others and for them to get to know you through my platform. Thank you so much just for joining me today. Tell us how people can reach you and what's the best way for that to happen?
Christine: Absolutely. You can reach me on my Instagram - that's the best way to connect with me. I am always on, I'm very present in my stories,. I love having really beautiful conversations as a result of what's happening for me in real time because I know it connects with others in a really beautiful way.
And we can have those deep conversations so definitely Instagram it's Christine_agha.
I just wanna say thank you very much for having me on this conversation. I'm such a fan of deep conversations, deep meaningful conversations - it’s what I live for, I love it and this has been one of those moments that I will love and hold in my heart and cherish for such a long time.
Mandy: I really appreciate you saying that and the feeling is mutual so once again thank you we will definitely be in touch.